1 00:00:09,85 --> 00:00:13,96 I'm fractured three Joining me now at the basic studio here in Second Life is 2 00:00:13,97 --> 00:00:17,78 Australian artist Lynette Walworth she uses a lot of technology in 3 00:00:17,79 --> 00:00:20,50 a very humanizing way so it was 4 00:00:20,51 --> 00:00:23,50 a natural impulse to get her into Second Life and chat 5 00:00:23,51 --> 00:00:27,22 a little bit about real versus virtual But first Lynette if you could further 6 00:00:27,23 --> 00:00:28,25 define your own work in 7 00:00:28,26 --> 00:00:33,75 a little bit more detail I do interactive immersive installations so interested in 8 00:00:34,07 --> 00:00:34,54 creating 9 00:00:34,55 --> 00:00:40,57 a spice that brings us very close intimate into the wood you know maybe there's 10 00:00:40,58 --> 00:00:42,23 a trigger There's an eye out trigger 11 00:00:42,24 --> 00:00:48,21 a tree is but all of those mechanisms are hidden and actually all you experience is 12 00:00:48,22 --> 00:00:54,09 the work responding to you what fascinated me the one where the visitor touches 13 00:00:54,32 --> 00:00:57,38 another person that is a projection on on 14 00:00:57,39 --> 00:01:01,81 a screen evolution of feel isness I filmed eleven women and all but to 15 00:01:01,82 --> 00:01:06,76 a political refugees and so there have come from Afghanistan an era tray in Iraq 16 00:01:07,00 --> 00:01:12,62 Salvador and even though the touch may not be real the touch still impacts on us 17 00:01:12,91 --> 00:01:17,51 and that's why I'm interested in this space that you've been showing me in Second 18 00:01:17,52 --> 00:01:20,86 Life I was just going to say because that is what is missing in Second Life that 19 00:01:20,87 --> 00:01:26,43 you cannot touch anything right now we have real glasses of wine that I want to 20 00:01:26,44 --> 00:01:30,21 disclose to the audience were drinking and later when I pieced this together for 21 00:01:30,22 --> 00:01:34,65 Second Life maybe I'll put some animated glasses in our hands but our avatars are 22 00:01:34,66 --> 00:01:38,81 not touching that what's your reaction to say oh that's missing that sense is 23 00:01:38,82 --> 00:01:42,21 missing but the only way I think you can achieve it is if you're touching something 24 00:01:42,22 --> 00:01:46,32 in real time so what I would be interested in doing for example is if we watch this 25 00:01:46,33 --> 00:01:50,77 back and we are drinking wine as we're watching our avatars drink wine you need to 26 00:01:50,78 --> 00:01:56,30 create the connection for the brain I think it's an ode story of some little doll 27 00:01:56,53 --> 00:01:57,10 that is 28 00:01:57,11 --> 00:02:02,94 a representation of you that carries essence of life innit. It's somehow connected 29 00:02:02,95 --> 00:02:08,21 and yet it clearly isn't them you know I happen to come from a country where it's 30 00:02:08,22 --> 00:02:14,16 a very specific thing that you need to in many circumstances ask Can I take this 31 00:02:14,17 --> 00:02:20,06 photograph if I go to an indigenous community in Australia I can bring out my 32 00:02:20,07 --> 00:02:26,45 camera and take an image I need to negotiate the transfer of an 33 00:02:26,49 --> 00:02:28,06 image which is in 34 00:02:28,07 --> 00:02:33,07 a sense virtual going to pass on to my digital camera your family let me tell you 35 00:02:33,08 --> 00:02:38,12 what your themes are your empathy you are reading your films are empathy but 36 00:02:38,13 --> 00:02:41,49 they're also the added told to victimhood it's being 37 00:02:41,50 --> 00:02:46,92 a power through the tragedy it's not to be the straw it by it's really celebrates 38 00:02:46,93 --> 00:02:50,65 the human spirit to me it is about those things and I see people coming approach 39 00:02:50,66 --> 00:02:54,16 the story what I see happens it appears to me is that there is some sort of 40 00:02:54,17 --> 00:02:58,35 transference occurring which again comes back to why certain cultures won't let you 41 00:02:58,36 --> 00:03:01,52 take their image because they also believe that there is 42 00:03:01,53 --> 00:03:07,09 a transfer and so it has to be willfully given as a gift and not taken I have seen 43 00:03:07,13 --> 00:03:11,28 a young boy one of the women approached in the doorway it's 44 00:03:11,29 --> 00:03:15,25 a video of this woman she was an Afghani woman she had 45 00:03:15,29 --> 00:03:20,11 a sure lawn and she's an elderly woman and he was wearing this kind of beautiful 46 00:03:20,12 --> 00:03:25,36 very cool hat he put his hand there she approached him and he instinctively took 47 00:03:25,37 --> 00:03:30,33 his other hand and grabbed his hat and took off his hat in response to meeting this 48 00:03:30,34 --> 00:03:35,04 video woman so that's very similar to the virtual exam the instinct to be 49 00:03:35,51 --> 00:03:38,21 respectful and remove the had in response to 50 00:03:38,22 --> 00:03:42,63 a person that doesn't really exist this is exactly the same phenomenon that I 51 00:03:42,64 --> 00:03:46,77 instinctively take off my shoes when I go on the virtual mosque Yes because I know 52 00:03:46,78 --> 00:03:49,53 it's customary Yes You know I come from 53 00:03:49,54 --> 00:03:55,23 a country that the powerful message of his strength is the colonizing country that 54 00:03:55,24 --> 00:04:00,57 arrived could not read the culture and thought it didn't exist because it couldn't 55 00:04:00,61 --> 00:04:06,11 interpret it. And did not spend the time to try and learn it and just rough ride 56 00:04:06,12 --> 00:04:08,36 over the top of it and if you create 57 00:04:08,37 --> 00:04:13,51 a world where you say this is so foreign like no I'm no one else is being here you 58 00:04:13,52 --> 00:04:18,16 know or this didn't exist or that many years ago then you know that culture is new 59 00:04:18,17 --> 00:04:21,02 and maybe what you do is step carefully and perhaps it's 60 00:04:21,03 --> 00:04:24,08 a really great listen and that's what we can really learn and used up 61 00:04:24,09 --> 00:04:28,49 a little bit more carefully yet that was Lynette Wallwork in Second Life she goes 62 00:04:28,50 --> 00:04:32,84 by the name of rosin Mr Walker I'm director Dupree Thanks for tuning in. 63 00:04:48,37 --> 00:04:50,47 To our.